Speaking to the Congress leader, Yunus said: "I said Covid-19 pandemic suddenly stopped the whole machine, the entire economic machine. Now the whole thrust is coming over how quickly we can go back to where you were coming from."

 

Yunus said: "I said, what is the hurry to go back. Why do we have to go back to that world and why we have to go back to the world with global warming, with wealth concentration?"

 

He said wealth in that world is moving to too few hands in the most of the people have nothing to do with that wealth anymore. "So why do we have to go back to that system to create wealth concentration? As a going back will be suicidal. This Covid-19 has given us a chance to think new. Opportunity to make a break," he said.

 

He further said that this is the time to take decision, "outrageous decisions" right now.

 

The Congress MP from Kerala's Wayanad responded to the Grameen Bank founder, and said, "This is a completely western model that we have adopted lock stock and barrel. This model has serious problems. This model has serious contradictions it destroys the environment, it destroys societies?"

 

Rahul Gandhi said that we need to think about our traditional structures. "So I think I agree with you that the game needs to be equalized for rural people and imagination in Covid-19 gives us an opportunity to have a brand-new imagination which comes from within us as opposed to from outside us," the Congress leader said.

 

The Grameen Bank founder also said that it is time to make new system as thousand mile journey starts with the first step.

 

The Congress leader lamenting at the government over the handling of the migrant workers crisis during the nationwide lockdown said that it was a "massive issue". He also said that the micro entrepreneurs suddenly found stranded.

 

Rahul Gandhi said that he saw the first hand account of the pain people were going through as their world has fallen apart. He said the first aspect of it was trying to look after those people immediately, and our perspective was give them food, give them cash injection directly to keep them, to keep them, afloat.

 

"But the government had a different view. They didn't really do that. They sort of didn't feel that that was necessary. Then we have this big crisis of millions of people going home walking thousands of miles. I think that if you don't come out of Covid-19 with a new imagination, you have missed a huge opportunity both as an individual and as a nation," he said.

 

The Congress leader also said that what Covid-19 is telling is that what you have been doing so far is problematic and as you are saying reset.

 

"Start with a blank page and start with a new imagination, of course, you can't make a jump like that in governance but at least the mind should go there and then the rest of the institutions and other things will follow," he said.

 

To a question by Yunus that what would you see the next generation, second generation in India, will see the world like, the Congress leader said, "In India there is a clear feeling that something has gone very wrong, that feeling is there in the people and particularly in the young people."

 

He said and what pinches in India the most is the difference between the rich and the poor. It disturbs people. "And so there is a sense that there is a something new is required a new imagination is required. And I think that what we are working on that as an opposition working on helping sort of flesh out what that new imagination would look like," he added.